Tim: You did what?  

Mom: Any of his Mail was not important.  

Tim: I took four or five letters the other day that I going to, you know, a IRS thing, a New York State pension, but I haven't. Forwarded it to him yet? I will.  

Mom: He said most everything he has is on his computer and he couldn't think of anything. It was here.  

Tim: Oh, so he probably has all of his pension stuff on?

Oh yes, I'm sure. Okay. Yeah. Maybe I won't send it to him then. No, I wouldn't. He didn't ask me.  

Mom: Right. Tim, my Kleenex box is over there now, you're going to take care of me. I'm way back now.

Tim: Margy's still shopping for more. For back up toilet paper, back up paper towels, back up everything.

Mom: She loves that computer shopping.  

Tim: She's good at it, yeah. She's good at it, but I, I  

Mom: should be able to do it, but I get scared.

Tim: You reading the, do you read the Times and Go on Facebook? Oh, I do. Good.

Mom: Facebook, Megan? Not much today, I guess.  

Tim: Do you have a picture of the new dog?  

Mom: Oh, I've had several. Yes.  

Tim: I, I don't look at Facebook more than once a week at that. You can,  

Mom: I bet that Katie's thrilled with that  

Tim: dog. Oh, absolutely. Loves it. Sleep with her. I think so. They're, they're trying to keep her in a crate for purposes of, uh, house training.

Cause, you know, they're there all day. The dog doesn't, the dog doesn't understand that there's a certain time you go out. She thinks you can go out any time you want. Of course, Louie's 12 years old, he thinks the same thing, so who knows. But, Trump will be on again today. Probably. Oh, he, he said so yesterday, he says it every, I'm Trying hard not to watch it.

It's so terrible. It's the worst.

Mom: I eat my dinner at that time. That's smart. That's smart.  

Tim: I was trying to count up the number of presidents you've been alive for. Uh, you've been alive for a lot of presidents. Starting out with 20 was, was, uh, Wilson. Wilson wasn't president in, in 23. He lost, he, uh, I think he died 19 or 20.

He was incapacitated in office v Hoover, wasn't it? Wilson, then Hoover. No,  

Mom: Coolidge. Coolidge. Coolidge, I guess. Coolidge. And then FDR.  

Tim: No, Coolidge Hoover FDR. Oh. Coolidge was the Roaring Twenties, and then Hoover came in and the Depression started. Then, uh, then, uh,  

Mom: FDR. FDR was in the 30s.  

Tim: He got elected in, uh, 32.

32. Yeah. He took office on January 1, 33 or January, 1733. He was present. He then he got elected again in 36 40. In 44, and he died. He, he, I think he died in 44. He must've got elected in November. What did, when did he die? Maybe he died in 45. I think it was 44 though. He wasn't in office, he wasn't  

Mom: Well, when did Truman come in?

Tim: When the day, the day FDR died. But I can't remember if he died in 44 or not. Let me look, okay? Because, uh,

I think he took office, he got sworn in. Oh, he died in 45, okay, so he did get sworn in. I think he died in August of 45. Because  

Mom: I couldn't vote for Truman's re election.  

Tim: Forty eight. It wasn't re election, it was his first time as president. Because he was president for three years.  

Mom: And that was the fall that Maureen was born.

Tim: Yeah, you couldn't vote in  

Mom: November? Well, that's when you stayed in the hospital ten days, or two weeks. And she was, she ripped the hell out of me.  

Tim: Was she big when she was born? Eight pounds or something. Was that the largest baby? Yes. That was a portent of things to come, wasn't it? I don't know how much I weighed.

Do you know how much the rest of the kids weighed?  

Mom: Oh, not often. Brian was under six, or about six pounds. And then Ann, and Ann's, oh, not Taylor. The girl she went to school with. They got in the nursery that they could look through the window. Killed themselves laughing cause he looked like a chicken. And they told me that.

Tim: That wasn't nice. I know. What do they mean he was so, so, that six pounds isn't that small. He  

Mom: was just pu..... Skin and bones.  

Tim: Six pounds isn't that small, in my opinion. But, you had to see him. You had to see him. They say a pound  

Mom: of butter is this big. Six pounds. That's why I always  

Tim: compare. You're right.

That's pretty small, isn't it? Yeah. Did he fatten up quick, though?  

Mom: No. He didn't? Where's that picture? Right up there. He's not fat at age three. He  

Tim: did get fat at age three? No, I  

Mom: say that's him standing there. He's not fat.  

Tim: Never had baby fat, huh? Boy, I did. Yes. I still do a little bit.  

Mom: And you had bad feet.

Tim: Who did? You. I did? I didn't know.  

Mom: Oh, you could hardly walk down Main Street and Niagara Falls. I remember your feet. You limped.  

Tim: That's weird. People tell me I limp once in a while. It must be subconscious. Geez, how did I get drafted? I passed the physical to be in the United States Army. I couldn't be that gimpy.

Mom: We probably didn't even know there was such a thing as a foot doctor specialist or something.  

Tim: One time I was walking with John DeFiori a few weeks, a few months ago, well it was last summer, it wasn't this year. He said, stop walking so, what did he call it, like chicken feet or something. My legs were, I wasn't putting one foot in front of the other, I was going to the side and then to the side.

I said, well I'm sauntering. He said, you're not sauntering, you know. What the hell is sauntering anyway? Gee, I didn't know I had, did I complain about my pain in my feet? Oh, yes. I'm glad I don't remember that.

Mom: You were probably three or four  

years old.

Tim: That makes me feel like I was a sick kid. I remember you told me that I was sick when I was a baby.

Mom: Dr. Selzer came, yes.

Tim: Did you think I was going to die or what?  

Mom: Oh, you had bad throat. Really scary 'cause we didn't have penicillin and stuff then.  

Well,  

Tim: you had penicillin in 1947. Penicillin been around a hundred years.  

Mom: Well, they didn't use it. Really Not until the. Iron lung time, when was that? Fifties. Yes.

That's when penicillin became Really? It It wasn't  

Tim: a treatment for polio, though. No. Geez. Aspirin. Every kid my age, Brian I'm sure, probably Maureen and Dennis, maybe Kevin. Not Kevin, I don't know. What year was Kevin born? Fifty four? Three. Fifty three?

Mom: He'll be sixty seven this year, won't he? Yes.  

Tim: This year?

In two days? Yes. Yeah. No, every, but I'm saying every kid, at least my age, Brian's age feared the iron lung. They showed it on tv, you know? Oh yeah. See a person my age going in it or being in it, iron, lung, God, why'd they call it that? I know it was made outta iron and it helped you breathe. They should have thought of like a soft name for it, you know, like the gentle something.

Gentle lung. A lifesaver. Yeah. Geez. Iron lung like that. I don't know. Iron Cross or something. It just sounds so heavy. It's a heavy, heavy two words. But  

Mom: That's what it was called.  

Tim: Yeah. None of us ever had a disease like anything Up until now. Were any of your kids ever hospitalized? That's unbelievable, really.

I mean, maybe for a broken bone they'd go to a hospital and get a bone. Nobody had a broken bone. Maureen had a, broke her ankle there. Remember? Went over here. Skating. Yeah. She was about twelve. I'd say, wouldn't you? So that would have been 1960. I was there, I remember it. Now, isn't that amazing? Not one child hospitalized.

Even so much as adults, I mean, we've been in a I went to the hospital once when I lived in Buffalo. I pulled a muscle, and one doctor thought I was having a heart attack. At, uh, it was either Buffalo General or Sisters. I think it was Sisters Hospital. I was in there overnight, and a real cardiologist came in.

He said, you didn't have a heart attack, you're 30 years old, you pulled a muscle.