Mom: And Troy said some guy came and they stood out in the driveway. The guy cut his hair,  

Tim: he cut Troy's hair.  

Mom: Yes. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't like,  

Tim: did he cut Matthew and Wendy and, I don't know, mom, how did this, why is this called Military Road? Did, did it lead from Tonawanda to the, like the Nike base or something?

Or how do you think it comes, what. Why? Why are you asking? Why is this called Military Road? It's a weird name. You know there's a military road in Buffalo too. I don't know if it's the same number. Same. What does it have? The same  

Mom: route number went up by where? ClifforTruesd Dale works.  

Tim: Exactly. Yeah, the Anaconda plant.

Yeah. I just wondered why it's called that.  

Mom: Probably because the military were around  

Tim: here. . I know. I assume so. Fort Niagara. Fort Niagara. Yeah. Of course it ends right there at Lewiston Road.

And you would take that. I guess. Maybe it was a trail that the, uh, the English, uh, built to invade Fort Niagara or attack Fort Niagara when the French had it.

I don't know. I don't know the local history of that.  

Mom: You better look it up and find out. You want me to? Who would have named it?

Tim: I don't know. It's funny how roads get named.

Mom: Well, of course, the village of Lewiston was going to be the county seat.  

Tim: Wasn't that for a few minutes? Ever? No?  

Mom: I don't know. I don't think so.

Tim: Lewiston was, I think, incorporated before Lockport. Yes. It's interesting that Lockport. I don't think Lockport was a city, uh, when they, when the, uh, canal opened. Might have been. And the canal might not open this year. That'll be terrible for tourism. Talking about not opening. They need to do some work on the locks every year, and they haven't started it yet, and if they don't do it, it won't open.

This is gonna be an unbelievable year, 2020. The worst ever in many people. Businesses. Oh, this unemployment, those food lines, the people in cars getting their food, it makes me sick.  

Mom: Sad.  

Tim: You see those lines in Texas? They said a hundred thousand people in two days came to get a box of food with two weeks of, of provisions in it.

Rations country should have, would been made way more ready for this, I  

guess.

Mom: Well, it's not hurt Trump's numbers though, as you said.

Tim: It's amazing. 44, 40 6% of the people, it's like they're all, they're all men. We got more half the country's mentally ill.

Did you ever meet Robert Moses, like at a ceremony or anything? No, I don't think so. I did in Albany. He was almost dead. But it was interesting to meet him. I think  

Mom: I went to one meeting where they described the parkway coming down through Lewiston.  

Tim: Before it was built? Yes.  

Mom: But I can't remember, I don't think he was, I don't know.

Tim: The, the, uh, was there any, do you remember if there was any, uh, opposition or dissent?  

Mom: I don't think we had any. No, I think we just a, uh, to give us the knowledge of it.  

Tim: He just got his way. He got his way in Brooklyn and Queens with the expressway and the Long Island Expressway tried.

Mom: He took planning and everything.

Nobody had a voice. And it,  

Tim: there's a, there was a movie out last year called Motherless Brooklyn. It was an excellent movie. Alec Baldwin played a character modeled on Robert Moses. It was an excellent movie. There was a woman, there was an activist named Jane Jacobs in New York City when, uh, when Moses was building all the bridges and tunnels to get people to move out of the city to Long Island and leave the city to the poor and downtrodden Bronx, the Bronx anyway, parts of Brooklyn.

She tried to stop him, but She was before her time. She was around today, but he wouldn't have been able to do that stuff. He was active in life, in the life of New York State for 50 years. Go tell. Maybe more, 60. The 20s to the 70s or 80s. I saw him in the late 70s. He came up to the assembly rostrum and, uh, he wasn't introduced by the Sergeant at Arms, and the Sergeant at Arms just brought him to me.

And I reached my hand out and helped him up the stairs to the rostrum. The speaker was providing over the assembly. The speaker knew it very well. And the speaker turned around and said, Robert, how are you? Robert Moses said, Hi Stanley. It was Stanley Steinga. I sat him, I had a little chair next to the speaker.

I sat Moses down in the chair. I had talked to him for a minute. Could hardly hear him, he whispered. But he actually addressed the assembly. Broke assembly protocol. Only the governor is supposed to address the assembly. But they let him, Stanley Steinga let him address the assembly. He had some booze, a couple of booze.

B O O S, not boos, boos.

Look at that, Confederate flag in Lewiston, that makes me sick. See that on that house over there? Lewiston Road and Military Road. Can you find out who lives there? What do you want me to do, firebomb the guy?  

Mom: No, just find out. Write him a  

Tim: nasty letter. First Amendment. Why it's here. Yeah, I don't get it, I don't understand that.

Last month he had a Trump sign up. That's not there now. Switched, he switched to the Confederate flag. I don't know which is more, uh, inflammatory than obnoxious.

Rolf's got some more mail. He's gotta change his address. Why don't you take care of that?

Doesn't make sense. Gets all those tax things and pension stuff. I oughta mail it to him. Right. I'm his, I'm his, uh, I'm his clerk of the works. Whatever you want to call it. Administrative assistant.  

Mom: I thought you were going to get some. Yeah, I should.  

Tim: He, maybe he wants to come back and live in Lewiston,

closer to his, two of his children. Speaking of his children, I hope Timmy's, I wonder what happened to Timmy's, uh, house purchase in Staten Island, and probably he's by the wayside. I don't know. He was so anxious to do that.

And then, uh, Stephanie, you know, she thought she had the virus, but I, I don't think she ever  

Mom: She just was  

Tim: having I think she was Becoming Looking for sympathy? Notoriety She's still mad about Bernie, you know, she was a big Bernie Sanders supporter. You think people say they're sick so they can, people will feel sorry for them?

I don't know.  

Mom: She wants Headlines.

Tim: I never do that.  

Mom: I never answer any of her stuff. You don't?  

Tim: Nope.  

Mom: She's way overboard  

for me.

Tim: Her language is pretty rough. Yes. Yeah, but she's part of your family. I don't pick her. Huh? I didn't pick her. Well, you don't get to pick your, your grandchildren's spouses. You don't really get to pick any member of your family except one.

I don't. I remember I did a will for a farm woman. I think at  

Mom: the time, Colleen didn't pick her either. Really?  

Tim: Right. I didn't know that. I did a will for a farm woman whose husband was dead and she wanted to make sure that if her, if her son died before her that, uh Her daughter in law didn't get any part of her estate.

I said, well, she's part of your family. I was just having a conversation with her. She got mad at me. She said, she's not part of my family. It was her daughter in law. She said, she's not blood. Of course she isn't blood, but still.

Legal part of your family. That's why it's called in law, isn't it?

Mom: In law, yeah.  

Tim: Funny phrase. It's surprising to me that so many women still take their, uh, Their husband's last name, because you know. These places hangin them. Yeah, Griffin, you can pick it up. This place is doin great, for some reason. Pizza, he's sellin 200 pizzas a day. Hibbert,

probably more.

Village is quiet, but it looks nice, doesn't it? Yes. Wanna go down to the waterfront?  

Mom: Okay.  

Tim: Hey, you know Anne, the mayor's trying to divert money from the waterfront to pay for other things. I don't Pay for the, the, the park for the disabled. You in favor of that? I have to help them no  

Mom: more.

Tim: I don't see how she can do, get away with that. Her own party's been rebelling against her. Danny Gibson says, no way. Look at the Italian flag.

Casa Antica. What do you want, right?  

Mom: Right. Places like the Yellow House business, I bet they're all collapsed. Yeah, this is a  

Tim: building Al Bax is building, isn't that  

Mom: amazing? Yeah, well he's got money. He does, yeah. These folks have money. Yeah. I guess they keep going. This guy, he's got Hibbert money, right?

Tim: Hibbert and Pinessa, double whammy. Pinessa's got a lot of money from his pharmaceutical business.

Where'd Frieda live, upstairs there? Where's his baby and me? Frieda and Freddy live up there? They used to. Yeah, they don't anymore, they're dead, but Remember when Freddy got in trouble? Oh, yes. He didn't go to jail or anything, did he? That was before  

Mom: Yes, he did. Did he? I didn't know that. I thought, yes, a year and a  

Tim: half, did he?

Oh, really? They never had any kids. No. She was, she was kind of elegant. Would you say am I overdoing it by saying that?  

Mom: Who, Freda Elegance? No.  

Tim: No.  

Mom: Okay. Well I knew her from way back, so I don't, I guess  

Tim: I could She kind of a floozy,  

Mom: huh? Pretended a lot.  

Tim: Yeah. Well, I must have been impressionable. She wore silk scarves, , you know, she was a, she was a, what was her maiden name?

Walters Right. Walters and Ruth Mo was at Walters. Right, right. Is that it? Were there others? No. Look at the river. Isn't that beautiful?  

Mom: Their father was 65 when they were born. Really? Yes. Wow.  

Tim: When Ruth was born. Look at the dog down there at the ready to go in the water. See it? Oh yes. Golden Retriever. Oh he's playing with his, the owner's throwing stuff.

That's cool. See the dog swimming off for it? Yes. That's really cool. I said it was a retriever. That's pretty cool.

Mom: Default.  

Tim: No, he goes and gets it and brings it back to his mistress right there, see?

He likes it.

He says the retriever, that's their, is there a hook on that thing? Look at that. You know what it is? It's a fake, uh, duck. She's gonna throw it again.

Mom: Look at that. She's doing it for us.

Tim: I think so. It's a little entertainment, isn't it? It's really cool.

It's amazing that ducks can, uh, that dogs can swim. You know what? Who taught them how to swim? They're not amphibious. It's a nice looking dog. I think that's what Megan had. Her new dog's a retriever. Stately

looking dog, isn't it? Uh huh.  

Mom: Kind of cold.  

Tim: Yeah, the water's gotta be 50s.

Amazing. Look at him droppin Doesn't he look happy? That really dog is enjoying himself. Or herself. What do you think? Is it male or female?  

Mom: I would think it's a female.

Tim: Yeah, I think so too. One more time. Look at that. He's smart too. See, he goes to the end of the dock instead of going in. Look at that. Gee.

Athletic.

Mom: He  

Tim: finds it. He finds it and brings it back to his mistress. Look what they're doing there, Mom, with the dock. They're putting that new metal, uh, floating dock in. It's gonna be nice. Unless Ann steals all the money for the park. See what I mean? It's like an extra walkway.  

Mom: That was, she can't take that. It was  

Tim: State money.

Yes. Well, she thinks she can. Well, she may not think she can. It's not a question of thinking she can. She thinks she can get away with it. There's a different, different nuance there. She doesn't think it's right, but she wants the money. It's like three or four hundred thousand she's trying to move.

Mom: Because they don't need that damn park  

anyway.

Tim: It's a big waste. They should put some money in there to clean up the Toohey Park. Toohey, uh, that, that uh, outhouse that's named after you. You know anybody else who's ever had an outhouse named after them? No,  

Mom: he wants to go swimming.  

Tim: Yeah, that dog? I don't know.

Boy, can you imagine this jet boat business? Non existent, 2020.

Non existent.

He won't go out of business, though. He doesn't have any expenses unless, uh, well, he has, he owns that building.  

Mom: But they don't, I bet, have any money.  

Tim: It's closed. Is it? Yeah, but it's, uh, they haven't closed up for good, but it's closed until further notice.  

Mom: Well, they can't be making  

Tim: any money. There isn't a hotel in the country that's making any money, except maybe with some military.

People in a few of the places that are coronavirus hotspots, as far as I know. Look at Border Patrol, you must be looking for bad guys.

I hope Margie called Mom, Melissa wouldn't be there yet, it's just 10 to 5. You ready to go home? Yes. Sorry. So this is the house you lived in as teenagers, right? Second one. Second one in? Was it the exact same house? Did it have that front porch on it? Yes. That's a nice home. They have a basement? Oh, I don't remember.

Mom: I was only 16 or 17. Was I when we move here?  

Tim: 40, 19. 40? Yeah. Spring of 41. What year did you graduate from uh, high school? 40. Okay, so you graduated  

Mom: and then moved. Moved to Maryland, then moved back, spent  

Tim: a lot of time going back and forth. I imagine. Did you just go to Maryland once and then pick up?  

Mom: We moved there in September to go to college.

Dad came back. We all did. My brother got married in October. We came back for the wedding. Then my dad, at Christmas time, I think it was, came back to Lockport for a haircut and found a place that I think in Lewiston. And then after, January, we moved  

Tim: back here. How come Mildred was in the same class as you?

Mom: Dad had her stay over. He did? Because post graduate.  

Tim: That was so he could line her up with  

Mom: you? Yeah, so I'd have somebody to go to  

Tim: school with. Look how your neighbor's cutting her grass down there. Look, right there, look. Oh, yeah. Thick  

Mom: grass, isn't it?  

Tim: Okay, I never realized that. He had her stay, uh, extend her high school years.