Tim: Really? Spit, spit. Is it from what you ate? You spitting up?  

Mom: No, it's just getting worse and worse. I don't know what to do.  

Tim: Want to go to the doctor? No,  

Mom: they can't tell me anything. You know they can't.  

Tim: I don't know what to do.  

Mom: I'll spit up, I guess, and tell you. It's not food. No, it's just slop.  

Tim: Did you spit up any of your Easter dinner?

Last night, did you spit up any of your Easter dinner?  

Mom: No, did you know what I did? I went to bed at 8:30.  

Tim: That's early.  

Mom: I think I was so contented with that meal. Frank was here. And about 8 o'clock I had to go to the bathroom. And I did that and I said, Oh hell, I brushed my teeth and I said, I think I'm going to bed.

And he said, You're what? But I went anyway. And I might have laid awake until a little after 9. But it's only a half hour. And I fell asleep and slept well all night.  

Tim: How do you like that? Well, that was a good meal. I thought you ate a little fast. Well, I always do. Did you have the rest of the ham today for lunch?

No, I'm having it for dinner. Are there some potatoes left, too? Yes. Good.  

Mom: But then Kevin had brought me something, so Melissa was going to put some of that on my plate, too. So I'll have a lot to eat. What did he bring? I don't know. I'll be surprised. I think potato. I think there's a piece of pie.  

Tim: Good. You know, I didn't like that banana cream pie myself.

It was too soft. Margie claims that was a $25 pie. Margie says, this isn't real whipped cream. I said, you mean, we bought a $25 pie with, uh, ready whip on it? I don't think so. Becky wouldn't do that. She's known for her pie baking. That would be like, that would be like a, , just going in to give confession to a priest and you pull a cord back and it's a, somebody who, a garbage man sitting in there or something. I don't know what it would be like. But, anyway, Ryan wondered why we didn't have ham for dinner. Margie and I had cod. I told you yesterday. I thought you were going to have salmon. So did I. It was cod. Well, I cooked it. I made a nice little cod dish. Really good. But, traditionally in our family, did we have ham for Easter?

Oh, I think so. Did you buy one of those ones? With Easter ham. Yeah, for Easter.  

Mom: Because that's what they advertised, Easter hams.  

Tim: Oh. I remember, like, with the spiral cuts? Yes. Would you buy it that way? Yes. Hmm. Yeah. I wonder how that became  

Mom: Who asked you, Brian or Ryan?  

Tim: Ryan asked me why we didn't have ham.

Here he's down there having a Seder dinner where they don't have ham. I don't know what they had. They had a virtual Seder with about ten of their friends that they watched eating on their lap, you know, on their computer. He said it was real nice. But Who knows?  

Mom: You think he'll change religion?  

Tim: No, I don't think so.

No. He's comfortable with the situation, with the kids, uh, going to Hebrew school, and Risa's not exactly a religious Jew.  

Mom: Well, she was up until marriage.  

Tim: No, it was always, uh, it's just the holidays. Of course, when she was in college, she went to Israel and lived on a kibbutz for nine months or six months, so she was real active as a, uh, High school student in her temple.

But I think that was just for, uh, personal advancement. Nothing against that, but, you know, she's always been ambitious. She's working full time at home. Very busy. I don't know what she's doing. And Vivian has discovered FaceTime on the telephone. She's calling me all the time. I love it. I love talking to her. Sometimes her parents don't know she's calling me. She's got to hang up. Gotta go. We have some nice chats though. I think she's bored. I asked her today if she had any books she was reading and she said she was re-reading, re-reading some graphic novel. She reads, you know.  

Mom: Does she have school chums?  

Tim: Yeah, but there's only one she talks to that lives in her building and she can't visit her. They're really secluded. They're really sheltered. I mean, Brooklyn's one of Four miles from them. Everybody has the virus over there in, uh, Williamsburg. Amazing. Well, they better stay sheltered. Yeah. They, they will.

Did I tell you, I, I, I watched a mass yesterday. So did I, I told you. Oh, you did? Yeah. Yours was from, uh, was it from St. Pete, St. Patrick's? No, it was from Buffalo, right? Yeah.  

Mom: I think it was Polish. I know it was Polish.  

Tim: The church itself, like, St. StanisÅ‚awska or something like that?  

Mom: I can't remember. I want to say, she told me the, see right now I can't even think of some of the suburbs, in the city.

Tim: Depew, Cheektowaga?  

Mom: Yeah, something like Cheektowaga. Oh boy.  

Tim: Did it remind you of any of those services when you were a kid, like the Methodist or Episcopal? Episcopal is similar to Catholic service. Oh, Episcopal is, uh, Basically identical.  

Mom: Same creed. Yeah. Except they dropped the, uh, the last, Christ our Savior, what's it, I have to say the Lord's.  

Tim: The Apostles Creed?

Yes. They changed it slightly, huh?  

Mom: No, they just dropped the last three words.  

Tim: Oh. Hmm. Well, actually, you know, going to Margie's church sometimes, that's, they're all There's variations, yeah.  

Mom: Religions, religion, particularly Protestant, anything, uh, not Jewish.  

Tim: I think some of these modern, uh, megachurches have changed it quite a bit.

They're all, they all center around the, the presentation from the The pastor, you know, that's what's sort of almost a cult of the pastor, how he writes. Evangelicals. Yeah, they don't, they don't have a typical service with, you know, there's music and the pastor, I think. Not that I've ever experienced it, but that's what I, my guess it is. You would go out to a church where, in Lockport, the Methodist?  

Mom: No, the Methodist was right at Warren's Corners. Oh, was it? Which then became the school, was attached.  

Tim: All in one building? Yes. So when you would go to a service, would there be  

Mom: No, I mean since then. Oh, since then, yeah. There were no more schools, so they attached it to the church.

I see. As an entryway.  

Tim: So the Methodists had a school?  

Mom: No, we went to school there. Right next door to the church. Okay. But I, oh,  

Tim: but it was a public school? Yeah. Oh, okay. Was it,  

Mom: but I don't think we knew any other religion really.  

Tim: Well, I probably, we didn't know it either growing up, although, you know, there was a Episcopal church there and what other churches were there in the village that wasn't always there.

That went up in the,  

Mom: when I came, it was over here.  

Tim: That plain and, uh. Near Plain and, uh, Niagara, yeah. Well, the Episcopal Church, I would say, went up in about 58. Probably. 59, maybe 60 at the latest. I'll have to check the sign. There's a cornerstone there. But then, where was the Lutheran Church that they built off of 9th Street?

Mom: I think it was just a visiting church over here, like the Episcopal.  

Tim: Oh, the Presbyterian Church was the Landmark church in Lewiston. That's the oldest church. Must have been a lot of Presbyterians around. They built a, even the old church, where they still have services in once in a while. Paul Reed's funeral was in there. It was beautiful.  

Mom: Betty Helms had her service there.  

Tim: She had her service there. That church was full too. Yeah. So, and then, uh, yeah, that's about it. There's, there's, uh, Jehovah's out on 104.  

Mom: What's the one out on, um  

Tim: That's a, that's a Church of Christ or something. Yeah. It's, uh Latter day Saints? No, I don't think so. Yeah. That, Latter day Saints are Mormons, aren't they? Yeah. Now that's more, this is more of a more local congregation.

Oh, you know, there's a, there's a small congregation in the old St. Peter's Church now. It's got a funny name. It used to be owned by Art Park. Are they white people? Probably. I don't know. What difference does that make? You said a funny name. Not the, the church has a funny name like Come Join Us. That's the name of the church.

Come Join Us or something like that. Or Come, Come Let's Be Together. I forget what the title is. But I go to Margie's office sometimes and they're in there practicing choir practice or something. I hear them. I went to her office today, you know, she hasn't been in there since before St. Patrick's Day, and I had picked up some mail for her to go through, and I, I picked it up at her, at our, at her office.

I took it to her. She went through it over the weekend and I had to take it back today. And Tom is there, the guy who was positive for COVID-19. I didn't go near him. I just saw him and he said he thought he might still be contagious. I don't think so. I think you're. I don't know. He's been, he's been, he's been, uh, symptom free for 12 or 14 days, he said.

So he's over it, but I don't know. You know, if I shook his hand, would I get the virus? I don't think so. But I want to, I even, I wore gloves when I went in there. I wore surgical gloves.  

Mom: So. Better to be safe than sorry.  

Tim: Yes. Yes.

The village is quiet, nothing going on. I don't think these restaurants do any business except Friday. You know, the takeout. Apple Granny sells a lot of fish fry, fish fries.  

Mom: I was thinking, because that's all I got to do. Center Cut, remember that one, is that closed?  

Tim: That's closed, and the Hibbard kid bought it who's doing, uh, who did Gallo. He's moving to the corner of Fourth And he bought Center Cut? He leased the building. He's opened a restaurant in there the week before the closure order. It's called Gather. It's American. He calls it American cuisine, like good hamburger, meatloaf, and get a steak, I guess. He was doing okay for that four or five days that he was open.

You know, he's got a, he's got a following, the Hibbard following. He's half the town. They go from the Gallo To this place now they're gonna, now Gallo's gonna be a, uh, Mexican place. He's gonna have Gallo, the pizza place over on the corner and this other place, the triangle of ownership,  

Mom: all things that he's running.

Tim: He's a nice guy. He's only 38 or 39 Hibbard. But you know, his father's got his father, his stepfather's got the money. Little Al Pinessa. Oh, did you know Al his father? No. He, he started one of these, uh, generic drug companies in the Grand Island, par Parma ParMed, it's called ParMed Pharma. He was a pharmacist. He saw the generic drug, uh, wave coming in the eighties, started picking up these generics that were, uh, it's where a, a patented drug is losing its patent.

And you can, somehow you can make it like they can make, there's, there's, uh, statin drugs that take over for Lipitor. He got into that kind of stuff, made a lot of money. In fact, his, uh, that's Big Al, his son is Little Al, who worked for that company. And then my neighbor, Tracy Panessa, worked for that company at all. Worked for that company also. They all got stock when it went public, one of those things.  

Mom: The rich get richer.  

Tim: Yeah, well. They got their problems too, like anybody else. That family. Norma's not well, their mother. Little, Big Al stays in his house. He used to be in the back room of the country club smoking cigars. Playing, played golf and smoked cigars. Now he's all pissed off at the world, they say. He doesn't leave his house. I don't know why. Anti, he loves Trump. Love him? Yeah, he's a Trump guy. They're a Trump guy. Boo. You gonna watch Trump today?  

Mom: No. They have a blurb of it.  

Tim: Well, that must have been from the weekend or from, uh, I don't even know if he had a thing. I don't think he had a thing. I've stopped watching him. I can't watch it anymore. I don't want to watch it. I don't care what he says. I still read the papers, but I'm not watching that stuff. It's nuts. But, I don't know.  

Mom: I saw some of the Governor.  

Tim: Cuomo?  

Mom: Yep. Cause I like the way he explains things so nicely.  

Tim: Lays everything right out there transparently, doesn't he?