Tim: What do you mean?  

Mom: Were all sisters. Of Grandma.  

Tim: Myra was Grandma's sister. And Margaret Reynolds. Margaret Reynolds was Grandma Toohey's sister?  

Mom: And, who else did I say? She lived down in Olcott.  

Tim: Yeah, uh, Oh darn.  

Mom: I just said her name.

Tim: Grace. Grace, Myra, uh, and Margaret, and Elizabeth. Bessie, yeah. Yeah. Did, did, did, uh, everybody call Grandma Toohey Bessie? Yes. Did they? Not many Bessies around? I only know one other one.

We, we didn't go out there much today.  

Mom: Guess what she's doing. She's, there's her good friend from high school. Laura, who I've met, I've been to dinner with Laura and her mother, who is separated. They're probably some of the richest, uh, where do they live? Pepper Pike people. And Laura is in England now. She went to Scotland to college.

St. Andrews? Now she's in London, and so Bessie and a couple of friends are going over to see her, and then Bessie's going to stay, go to Ireland and rent a car and travel Ireland by herself.  

Tim: That's awesome. Well, I've told you before, she's 21 and 22. She's so much fun to be with. She's a riot. She's smart.

Clever.  

Mom: How she gets on by being a nanny.  

Tim: Mom, people do what the path, you know, whatever path they take. She's fine, I think. How did you arrive at our names? I mean, obviously, I guess, Brian and Elisa arrived at Bessie, but your first child, Brian, did you know somebody named Brian?  

Mom: No, there was a movie actor, Brian.

I don't know what his name was, Donovan. (Brian Donlevy) And he was handsome. Really? That's a good one. He was Irish. I decided I'd have an Irish name. And then Timothy, I liked. Yes.  

Tim: Now what actor though? Rock Hudson? No, not that. Sorry. How about maybe, uh, Brando? No. Who were the major actors in the 40s? Bogey.

Who else? How about...  

Mom: I just like Timothy.  

Tim: Yeah. Well, thanks. I don't mind my name. I'm happy. What about Maureen? Maureen O'Hara? No.

Those are good names?  

Mom: They weren't all after movies, though. No? No. Brian Toohey was the only one. But the ones I got going on...  

Tim: Irish names? Irish. They all fit. Dennis, Kevin. Remember the kerfuffle over Colleen, though? Yeah. Michelle. Michelle. It went on her birthday. My mother didn't like it.  

Mom: Your mother didn't like it?

She said, they were in California, and she wrote back and said, Why are you using a, uh, French name?  

Tim: She really, I'm kidding. Had we changed it by then? No. I thought it was the siblings of Colleen that kind of rebelled. No, it was  

Michelle, Colleen. And I stopped calling her Michelle and called her Colleen. You never went in and changed the birth certificate or anything?

Mom: No, but  

then she changed the Michelle and dropped it to Colleen Toohey Porter.  

Tim: Yeah, not legally though. I don't think so. No, she didn't go to court and do that. And Gerald, Gerald's had an Irish name too, in a way.  

Mom: Gerald Matthew, he was the only one I named after his dad.  

Tim: Huh. Dad didn't say, hey, all these boys, I want to have a junior?

No. Never? It didn't? I would never have gone out. You wouldn't have? You don't like the junior? No, do you? If you did, you'd have one. Yeah, you're right. Of course, we got a couple Matthews, which is good. One in Ohio, one in Youngstown. Really? It is. It's great. Does Matthew have a Matthew?  

Mom: Yes, the Matthew Kevin was his name.

Oh, I forgot that, yeah. That's what Matthew used to stay down there, you know, New Year's? Yeah. And his family until Wendy said no.  

Tim: To what? To their staying. Did she? Oh, well. Too much... They had that whole big crowd. It's like a hotel they need. Right. I remember when they stayed at the, uh... Under the hill there, and when the place first opened, I think something like the smoke, uh, sprinkler system went off when they were there.

At least that's the way I tell the story. They were laying in bed and the sprinkler system went off. It might have just been an alarm. But you came up with good names, and then Colleen ended up that way. That's good. Naming kids is funny. We named, we named Keenan..Margy was getting ready to go to the hospital and I was watching TV and there was a, they were dragging some IRA dissident out of a, out of, into a jail in londonderry or someplace and his name was Kenan. And I said to Margy, wait, how about Keenan for the baby's name? She said, fine. . It was a, it was the dissident was a, or the rebel was a A male. But there's female Keenans too, right? Probably.  

Mom: Well, it's like Jordan after the, he was being two name Jordan. There's one of female Jordans.

Yeah.  

Tim: It's a two-way name. Yeah. Like, you know, like Lindsay, I think the Lindsay ... man is spelled different than the Lindsay woman. It's with an E. The woman's with an A. Generally.  

Mom: Oh.

Boy, that coffee's strong.  

Tim: Well, I made it strong for you.  

Mom: I'll be dancin.  

Tim: Is it that strong?