Mom: From about two. So if I doze, I doze. Mm-hmm. , but then that's all I need.  

Tim: You're sleeping okay at night? Oh, yes. Seems like you're sleeping better than ever.  

Mom: I am, long hours, like four hours til I have to go to the bathroom. Mm-hmm. , that's because it wakes me up. Hmm. And I fell asleep last night, so I don't know if she left at 9:30 or 11?  

Tim: We told her to leave at 9:30 or so. Remember, we talked about it and she agreed. I'm sure she left at 9:30, but not positive. I'm very disappointed she didn't fill in a...  

Mom: Find out from Margy if she changes her time. I will. Or does she expect to get paid till 11? No. No. Any more than she should, not, because Kevin will verify it, he did today.

He was here before three o'clock, and she claimed on the fight yesterday that she never left till 3:30. Well, she left more like 2: 30.  

Tim: You said she needed a rest, or went to get a bite to eat. Yes. And it took her, how long do you think she was gone?  

Mom: Til after four, an hour and a half. I was out in the kitchen at eight minutes after four, looking out to the driveway and said maybe she fell asleep in the car.

There was no car,  

Tim: and she disagreed with you and claimed she was only gone a half an hour. What are you going to do? We'll figure it out.  

Mom: Well, she lies, Tim, and I don't need people lying around me. I know. I know. I would trust Melissa explicitly. And she would have no reason to lie.  

Tim: When is she due here next?

Wednesday?  

Mom: I think so.

Tim: You want to give her another chance? No. You don't?  

Mom: She's not nice to me.  

Tim: Geez, I always thought she was.  

Mom: No? The fact that she didn't even empty a waste basket, or take out my dirty wine glass.  

Tim: Yeah, this is yesterday's paper. I thought she brought all this out.  

Mom: No, she didn't bring anything out. Hmm. She never came in this room after our spat.

She sat out the kitchen table.  

Tim: Yeah, but when I came here, Mom, at six o'clock, Everything seemed fine. You guys both put on a little act.  

Mom: Well, I'm not gonna involve you , you've been to a game.  

Tim: The fight was over, but you still were in your separate corners, right? Yes. Did she say goodnight?

Mom: No. Only when I go to bed.  

Tim: But she wasn't here.

Mom: I always say goodnight. She was here then.  

Tim: What was that at about 9? Or 9. 15. Where was she, in here or out there?  

Mom: In my kitchen, or in my bedroom. She made sure I got into bed.  

Tim: Well, maybe I'll give her a call. Would you rather have somebody else on Wednesday? This week?

Mom: All right, well let's. You'll have to check. I think Melissa would come twelve o'clock. I hate to start somebody new.  

Tim: Especially if you're going to cut back. I'm not all together on board with you on cutting back. I wish we could find somebody to do like short shift. Really? Well, let's work. I don't. All right, I will.

Today, when I went, I turned on to Plain Street, um, to go past Margie's office. Her car wasn't in front, so I wanted to see if it was in back, whether she'd gone to the hospital yet. She has a hospital board meeting today. I thought of Father Campbell. Remember Father Campbell? Oh, God, yes. Well, did you use, did you attend Mass when he was the parish priest?

Over there at the old church? Yes. Did the whole family go at times?  

Mom: He was connected, there was a seminary down here at Gary, what's  

Tim: his name? Gary Hall or Deschannel?  

Mom: Back in there, yeah. Yeah. And he'd be there sometimes.  

Tim: You mean as a, like he, a resident?  

Mom: Say Mass there? Yeah, the  

Tim: parish priest. I didn't know that.

I thought he said Mass at Stella. They did over here, too. That was actually a training seminary, wasn't it?  

Mom: I remember him being there, though. Maybe we just had parties.  

Tim: It's a beautiful building. Now they've fixed it up a lot inside. But how long would you Lewiston? Fifteen years, maybe?  

Mom: I know, I had the one time, that was when I lost a baby, and he came here to this house.

Tim: Did he? Yes. That day? Uh huh. He had white hair, didn't he? Uh huh. I remember him, I have a very bad childhood memories, you know that, how I always say I don't remember any birthday parties? But I remember sitting in St. Peter's Church. At First Communion, and him pointing out the smile on my face to make a point in his, uh, little talk.

I don't know, I wouldn't call it a sermon. It was like introducing everything. And he said, look at Timmy Toohey in the front row there with a big smile on his face. This thing like that sticks with you. My face probably got red or something, but I remember it. That's sweet. I don't know what, how old we were.

I think at that, those days. About seven. Seven or eight, yeah. So, but I don't remember, and I, I guess I can remember Mass, uh, from him, but, did we all go to church together? Yeah. Sitting in a row. Don't you remember over here? A little bit, I, my memory's bad.

Mom: The time JFK was killed. I don't remember. We walked home from there, your dad was home.

He'd gone to an earlier mass. Really? He was home, and he saw Lee Harvey Oswald get shot, yes.  

Tim: That was, was that on the Sunday? On Sunday, yeah. After the Friday assassination? Excuse me. See, I didn't know that. He was watching TV. Yes. Why didn't he go to mass with us? Cause he probably went earlier. We all went, like, everybody, Kevin, Maureen, Colleen was four, Colleen was four when JFK got shot.

She probably went. I mean, it was a regular Sunday Mass. But we went, it just happened to be the weekend of JFK's assassination. See, I don't remember that. I remember... The day of the assassination of Mrs. Thorne at Lew-Port, kind of comforting the class. Um, but, I don't remember. And you know what else I remember?

I had to work at the fish market that night. The African Americans, which were a prominent, uh, customer, part of the customer base, people from Niagara Falls, were crying. They're buying their fish, standing in line, tears rolling down their face. Not kidding. 7 o'clock on November 22nd.  

Mom: I worked at Steins. I think they closed.

Really? Yes.  

Tim: Hmm.

Mom: I know we did. Did you?  

Tim: So it wasn't until the next year that you went to county clerk then. Remember we were talking about that the other day?  

Mom: Yeah.  

Tim: Hmm. So, Dad went to mass by himself that day. Now, was that, was the 22nd his birthday? Dad's birthday? 22nd of February? November. November, wasn't it?

Yes. The same day of the assassination. Right. Yeah, that's what I thought. I bet there wasn't a birthday cake. Well, maybe there was a birthday cake.  

Mom: I think I was baking something. Pie or whatever. And, I had a Woman who was delivering, buying some clothes, sometimes, now I can't think of her name, but she came, and I had not had television on or anything, cause I was making something for Dad's birthday, in the kitchen.

Tim: You don't have the TV on usually noon time, one o'clock in the afternoon.  

Mom: And she told me about it happening, and that was my first. I put Colleen to bed for a nap, and everything went into turmoil then.  

Tim: I don't think school was let out early, because it happened in the afternoon, and they had to, you know, the buses would be there in an hour or so.

Now, uh, let's see, it was, uh, Brian was at NU. Probably. Yeah, he was in his second year. Aw. They probably, he probably learned some, you know, had an announcement there. All kneel down and pray. You think so? The good Vincentians? Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, probably.

That was amazing. I didn't know that Dad saw the, the uh, Jack Ruby shoot Oswald. Probably didn't believe it. You see it now even, you say, How did that happen? All those cops around there? Incredible.

Mom: Well. Doesn't he get killed?  

Tim: He died in prison.  

Mom: Oh, right.